Of all the places we thought Kylie Jenner would divulge her beauty routine, The New York Times was not one of them. And yet, the outlet surprised everyone today by publishing a revealing beauty interview with Jenner in which she discusses her makeup, hair, and skincare favorites. Out of everything she shared, we zeroed in on two things: her favorite foundation and the surprising drugstore product she swears by. The foundation in question is Charlotte Tilbury’s Light Wonder Foundation ($45), which also happens to be a Byrdie favorite. Jenner tells The New York Times she likes it because “you can still see my skin through it.” Which might seem like a surprising reason to like a product, considering Jenner’s penchant for heavy contour, big lashes, and lots of lip liner—but she says that persona is only for when she does photo shoots or interviews. The rest of the time, she swears she doesn’t wear heavy makeup. The more you know.